I also like how you claimed you wouldnt take shots at Treyarch.. What about the picture on the main page?

I never claimed I wouldn't take shots at Treyarch, I noted that in this post I laid the blame at Activision's feet for rushing the development cycle and cashing in. I also noted MW:R had "an experienced developer team that did well with Call of Duty: World at War", which is a complement to Treyarch. I The prior picture was on a different post, posing a question about why the game didn't see review copies being handed out.

The picture occurred in a different context and broke no promise. This is why I suggested better reading comp training for you (that and you think this site has a pro ps360 bias).

Thanks for stopping by.

As for the game, I along with over 40,000 players online enjoy it. Its not the developers fault that someone like you is writing on a Wii site when you more-than-likely dont even own one, let alone the game.

I also like how you claimed you wouldnt take shots at Treyarch.. What about the picture on the main page?
You're a complete hypocrite and a foney. Stick to your little game bashings, you wont make it out there with real journalists.

But im gonna quit wasting my time with you, because you seem like a lame anyway. You're the kid that got thrown in the trashcan or given a swirley in the boys bathroom at school werent ya? lol.

Have a nice life

I'm glad you enjoy the game, but what makes you think that because it meets your standards it should meet mine?

Pick up the game and play it before you decide to bash it on the internet.
Noob.. lmao.

By your very means of supporting a hacker's code or program (Twilight hack), you have shown yourself a hippocrate, I dont really need to search any further in your site.

"Flawlessly? It may help you to know that not everyone has the same standards for controls, and not every setting that works for one person works for another. Just because a kid can find something that works for him doesn't mean there aren't serious flaws in the controls — especially considering this is supposed to be a AAA title. Indeed, this is supposed to be THE AAA title. One of the best received and most lauded games of the decade. It's a high bar to meet."

Well let me see, with the exception of the turret controls, my controls work flawlessly, my entire family (5) enjoy these controls, the people I play with online enjoy the controls, hell, my son's play this more than they do MW2 on the PS3! So they musta done something right. The overall consensus of oh a hundred or so players that I regularily play with is positive, so I'm not following ya. We all may not have the same standards, but there's enough variety in these controls to satify all… It's what you do with that variety that determines if your gonna have a pleasent time or not. I can't hold yer hand and do the "Ghost" thing with ya.

"especially considering this is supposed to be a AAA title. Indeed, this is supposed to be THE AAA title. One of the best received and most lauded games of the decade. It's a high bar to meet."

Again, I see your once more making references to the PS360 and comparing this game to that version. I mean where's yer bar for it?… ya can't do graphics and storage, it be like trying to compare an SUV to Motorhome, the suv will get you around and happily I might add, but it's no comparison to the motorhome. This is what you are attempting! The Wii cannot be held up to the same comparisons. What it can be compared to is similar games on it's own system, to see if it moving forward, well, MOHH2 and WaW are the other two to compare it to, both are military FPS games, how does it compare? I'd say it was a step in the right direction.

"You seem to have plenty of time. Just not enough desire for accuracy. The problem with googling your "key items" is that half the time, even you don't seem to understand what they mean or how they apply to a situation. Your posts here are a fairly good example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing"

I love this part, LOL, typical ploy, try to change the subject by attacking the person instead of the subject. Don't really need to say much more on that.

But I'll tell ya what, when I do get a chance, I'll find every bit of info I referenced, just to show you that I did not make up any of it, I'd say I'm doing it for your readers… but I doubt ya got many.

LOL I can't stay here and argue with ya all the time, real life calls, But I've noticed how ya run all over this board claiming I don't know squat, but don't back it up… regardless, I kinda looked around yer site, and I see you haven't grown much, if any at all. Your clan directory boasts of clans that were around for a 2007 game,(HW is gone, Wt gone, Sol diff clan, OG's never existed other than for fun), some of your articles I still recall from that very timeframe.

I get a "Wii-who" whenever I bring up your site… LOL I think I may have done more bringing up interest for your site by asking around than whatever you do to advertise it.

It appears I over-estimated the size and influence of your site.

I'll leave ya to go on about yer private issues/rants, as this is not much more than that, a blog site.

BD

then ya they are one of the problems plaiging the Wii system

Cheaters plagued online games by cheating, not by being able to run homebrew. Developers and Nintendo plagued the Wii by not having proper safeguards in place for cheating, and in Ninty's case, it's because they flat out don't care about whether someone cheats on games and ruins your experience or not. None of the content I have posted at WiiHD has related to cheating or any other nefarious objective. All of it has been as pure as the wind-driven snow. Being able to play Quake on Wii doesn't disturb your gaming experience or anyone else's. And while there may be other ways to play DVDs, being able to play them on Wii also doesn't disturb your experience or anyone else's. You've sadly chosen to blame a noble cause — expanding the Wii's capability — for something in which it shares no blame. Do yourself a favor and blame the actual culprits.

So I was firing the first shot without any knowledge of whether you would in fact choose to silence things ya didn't want on this site.

Indeed, you threw out a lot of insults without knowing whether they were true or not. Can you imagine why I don't plan on taking your word for anything else? We probably could have had a much more amiable conversation if instead of trolling, you came in and made counterpoints that addressed what I actually said instead of creating a straw man, and then ad homineming him to death.

yeah I was frustrated with all these critics claiming the controls sucked amoung other issues, when I came accross yer site, and if a nine year old can adjust the controls in a matter of minutes to perform flawlessly, then I have cause to challenge you.

Flawlessly? It may help you to know that not everyone has the same standards for controls, and not every setting that works for one person works for another. Just because a kid can find something that works for him doesn't mean there aren't serious flaws in the controls — especially considering this is supposed to be a AAA title. Indeed, this is supposed to be THE AAA title. One of the best received and most lauded games of the decade. It's a high bar to meet.

I don't have the time to actually post all that info, but it's not too hard to find, and anyone can google the key items I brought up to see for themselves. Maybe if this was a larger site, I'd waste my time.

You seem to have plenty of time. Just not enough desire for accuracy. The problem with googling your "key items" is that half the time, even you don't seem to understand what they mean or how they apply to a situation. Your posts here are a fairly good example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing.

As to the weight I give to some of the most basic elements of Wii gaming (controls), it's 2009, these aren't the early days of frontier Wii development; so I'm done cutting anyone slack. When the game in question is supposed to be AAA, all the more reason to expect quality in all aspects.

"Many companies (including Activision) have managed to make games on Wii without the ability to patch them. I think it's a great feature and years overdue, but trying to claim that the lack of patching was all that was holding Activision back from developing MW for Wii is a myth that ignores years of publishers and developers disregarding the Wii's potential as a core machine. Activision had unlimited amounts of time to develop this game for Wii. They didn't have to put a 9 month time limit on it, and they didn't have to wait until 2009 to start the development process. They made those choices, and far more weight was given to making a quick cash-in on the Modern Warfare brand than to anything else.

From your post, it's not entirely clear that you know what "porting" means. Taking a game designed on one platform, and making it run on another is porting the game. This has never been disallowed by Nintendo. Several of the system's launch titles, including Call of Duty 3 (gee, who makes that?), were ports."

Well maybe I should have clarified it! I figured you'd know, lol silly me. Of course I know what a port is, and I was reffering to online play and the restrictions placed for maintaining a game. So ya they can start with an earlier version already on the Nintendo platform, but the restrictions were still the same. Was not WaW the first Wii online title for the COD franchise?, which was rebuilt from the ground up for the wii, since they could not use either the 360 or ps3 version. So when I refer to porting in this case, I was talking about them porting the WaW version from another system to modify and use on the wii.

"Homebrew is a perfectly harmless activity for the vast majority of people who use it. The proper and appropriate place to guard against online games being hacked is on the networking side — the servers should take note of improper breaches and ban the people engaging in them. Hackers and cheaters will always exist. Blaming people who just want to be able to play DVDs on their Wii is pathetic"

If one person uses Hombrew to hack, and homebrew people consistently brag about getting around Nintendo's attempts to stop this, (Some have bragged about breaking Nintendo's newest attempts within hours of it's release, 4.2 anyone?), then ya they are one of the problems plaiging the Wii system, and a $20 DVD player can fix the play issue!, say how many DVD players do ya got already in yer house? Most people have a few i'm sure.

As far as the servers, well that's back to a Nintendo internal issue, as they are only trying to stop issues on their own titles and still prevent others from booting hackers or those with modified Wii's. With each succesfull title, more pressure is placed on Nintendo to relax these rules to allow the developers and server managers to actually do something productive about it, but untill they actually have the freedom to block or boot those using the system for other than it was designed, I'll hold Nintendo and those jerks abusing this accountable for problems.

"Making valid complaints is a good thing. My complaints are valid because of the weight WiiHD has always placed on solid functional controls—here that is the basis of a great Wii game. If developers think they can give you anything and you'll be happy with it and promote it without questioning, they have zero incentive to deliver a good product. We do disagree about the overall quality of The Conduit, but if you hated it, then why would anyone have cause to try and shut you up on grounds that your complaints might hurt the ability of Wii to get other hardcore games?"

Making a Valid complaint or critisism is a valid and needed point, I do agree with you on that, But I dissagree with you on the controls.

They are easily adjustable to whatever speed or accuracy you want, the fact that a person cannot or won't take the time to fine tune the controls is their own fault and not a design error. TC had adjustable controls, but that was not my problem with it, and believe me, I had plenty of problems with it. But that is another issue for a dead game that's not worth any time (IMO of course).

Well on the shuting me up issue, I've been edited (in that they chose to remove a few of my responces to the critic's answer of my (lets say colorful) suggestions about their reviews in other sites. So I was firing the first shot without any knowledge of whether you would in fact choose to silence things ya didn't want on this site.

I'm glad to see ya got some credibility and character on that issue.

"Don't worry, you never struck me as the type of person who would be shut up through reason or truth. FYI, WiiHD has never banned anyone. I'll argue with you as I have time, but although you're annoying, hypocritical and hostile largely without cause, you're pretty harmless, and your opinion is welcome here. In fact, dissent is more welcome here than agreement. You may feel free to disagree with any all posts and points made here."

LMAO!! is about all I can say to that, I'm always annoying to those that don't want dissent, not sure I'm a hypocrite, and yeah I was frustrated with all these critics claiming the controls sucked amoung other issues, when I came accross yer site, and if a nine year old can adjust the controls in a matter of minutes to perform flawlessly, then I have cause to challenge you.

I may lack the technical jargon, but I'll get my point accross, and anything I said is based on either an interview posted about the situation or actually having some conversations with people in the know. I don't have the time to actually post all that info, but it's not too hard to find, and anyone can google the key items I brought up to see for themselves.

Maybe if this was a larger site, I'd waste my time. The only reason I'm still arguing with you is because I'm too damn pigheaded to back off a challenge.

BD

MW may verywell have came out in 2007, but the permission to place a patchable game in the Wii console was not hatched out till this year pal!

Many companies (including Activision) have managed to make games on Wii without the ability to patch them. I think it's a great feature and years overdue, but trying to claim that the lack of patching was all that was holding Activision back from developing MW for Wii is a myth that ignores years of publishers and developers disregarding the Wii's potential as a core machine. Activision had unlimited amounts of time to develop this game for Wii. They didn't have to put a 9 month time limit on it, and they didn't have to wait until 2009 to start the development process. They made those choices, and far more weight was given to making a quick cash-in on the Modern Warfare brand than to anything else.

From your post, it's not entirely clear that you know what "porting" means. Taking a game designed on one platform, and making it run on another is porting the game. This has never been disallowed by Nintendo. Several of the system's launch titles, including Call of Duty 3 (gee, who makes that?), were ports.

I'm not to into hacking, yeah, HomeBrew isn't that a thing wiihd supports? It did when MOHH2 was the big thing. I believe it does doesn't it Fortunzfavor? All these jackasses messing up the leader boards with modified wii's hacked through Hombrew software?

Homebrew is a perfectly harmless activity for the vast majority of people who use it. The proper and appropriate place to guard against online games being hacked is on the networking side — the servers should take note of improper breaches and ban the people engaging in them. Hackers and cheaters will always exist. Blaming people who just want to be able to play DVDs on their Wii is pathetic.

Right now any attacks in my view need to be justified as they are directly affecting sales when placed in the form of a review or sounding that way. I personally would like to see good games like this come to the wii, but with dismal sales it won't happen.

Making valid complaints is a good thing. My complaints are valid because of the weight WiiHD has always placed on solid functional controls—here that is the basis of a great Wii game. If developers think they can give you anything and you'll be happy with it and promote it without questioning, they have zero incentive to deliver a good product. We do disagree about the overall quality of The Conduit, but if you hated it, then why would anyone have cause to try and shut you up on grounds that your complaints might hurt the ability of Wii to get other hardcore games?

However, I wouldn't worry about Modern Warfare's sales. Although Activision hasn't exactly been promoting this game, the name alone and the promotion surrounding MW2 will likely push it past the million mark without pausing for air. It's not unlike movie titles, except instead of relying on the movie to sell the game, they're relying on the brand and the sequel to do it.

You don't like it ban me. That is the only way your gonna shut me up.

Don't worry, you never struck me as the type of person who would be shut up through reason or truth. FYI, WiiHD has never banned anyone. I'll argue with you as I have time, but although you're annoying, hypocritical and hostile largely without cause, you're pretty harmless, and your opinion is welcome here. In fact, dissent is more welcome here than agreement. You may feel free to disagree with any all posts and points made here.

I have installed it, but can't get the aiming to respond at all

It doesn't seem to see my nunchuck either :(

MW may verywell have came out in 2007, but the permission to place a patchable game in the Wii console was not hatched out till this year pal!

WaWii did come out before, but it was completely remade from scratch, not a port, and with the restrictions on patching, the game became a mess in certain maps with glitchers, I'm sure ya know that Fortunz!, but ya chose to take the easy route and belittle the effort that is being made in MWR.

Go back and check the archive's at GF's you'll find responces from people better in the know that cover this topic, although I'm sure you already know this, which makes this review that much more sad.

Treyarch convinced Activision, but there were still restrictions as to the type of code that was allowed in the wii and that no altering of the code was allowed once it came into play, doesn't sound famiar? LOL anyone following this knew this information.

"Sorry pal, you flat out don't know what you're talking about. Nintendo quality control no longer exists. They'll let anything on their system. And they have, or haven't you been paying attention as 100s of instances of shovelware splattered themselves all over the Wii?"

Nintendo Quality control never existed when it came to game submittal, it sucked and still does, however once the game comes to the wii, they are jerks for anykind of editing as they seem to be paranoid that a game developer will do more damage than the hackers and Homebrew asses do.

"You don't seem to have read much here at WiiHD. I consider controls to be considerably more important than graphics, and were it not for the continual degradation of MoHH2's online servers, I'd probably still consider it to be the best FPS on Wii, despite the PSP port's very sub-par graphics, and so-so campaign. I recommended dialing back gfx for an online coop mode for WaWii (the original source of the image you noted — the image that has never appeared anywhere on this post btw), because at the end of the day, features are better than eye candy."

Haven't read yer site in a while you are right about that, I'm not to into hacking, yeah, HomeBrew isn't that a thing wiihd supports? It did when MOHH2 was the big thing. I believe it does doesn't it Fortunzfavor? All these jackasses messing up the leader boards with modified wii's hacked through Hombrew software? Jumping out of bounds, killing the entire other team just as the game starts and doing it over and over till the game ends a few seconds later on points? yeah I know WiiHD. And although I agree with you that graphics are not everything to people that just love to play and play against competative players, it's needed to get the game off commercially so enough of the masses buy the damn thing so we can enjoy further games, and Idjuts can hack, luckily, though, it seems the light of day has finally fallen, and if this game see's good sales numbers, we might see software introduced that deals with modded wii's and hackers in future titles.

So do I know about WiiHD? Um ya, do I care, um NO…

"I think when you have a big budget and you set expectations high, you ought to make the game look nice, but I never hold the Wii up to 360 gfx standards. On the other hand, I bash the PS360 as a matter of course here. I think dual-analog is last-gen tech in a way that really matters. Eye candy is cool for… a few seconds. Then the gaming experience is all about playing the game itself. For that, the Wii Remote's IR pointer is vastly superior to what the PS360 offers."

Have ya talked to Treyarch about this in any length? Not public relations, the actual developers who worked on the game? I have… These guys pushed the wii to it's limits, the game couldn't have held anymore, nore could they have modified it further as like ya said, Infinity Ward hates the wii. I personally appreciate that they made the effort to get us a good working game that they promised they would patch, now that they can actually patch it, and guess what, they have already patched the game and eliminated problems!

"I'd respond more at length, but you don't know anything about WiiHD, and you don't know anything about Nintendo. So there's not much left to respond to."

Well Yer right about WiiHD, most of my knowledge came from the MOHH2 era when your site was a little different. Doesn't make me wrong for dissagreeing with you or calling you out on a cheap review, that shows little knowledge of events that took place to actually get us this great game.

As far as Nintendo, I've actually read quite a bit on it and Iwata, as I thought he was an ass for his decision to not take hardcore wii online players seriously, something he's now being forced to rethink since his casual gamers turned out to be a bit lacking in the loyalty department. Don't you recall the statement that EA's CEO put out on Nintendo Limiting what they could do and not allowing porting or patching? I do, research it and you will find it. This is why we haven't seen an MOHH3, although WaWii's sales and hopefully this games sales in tandem with Nintendo lifting these restrictions will open the doors for EA to reconsider.

I know you like the sound of yer voice, and to see yer name in written text, but don't just blast a game to have something to say, or for that matter attempt to belittle someone just for calling ya out on it.

Oh and yer comment on the picture, "I recommended dialing back gfx for an online coop mode for WaWii (the original source of the image you noted — the image that has never appeared anywhere on this post btw), " Any idiot knows that's WaW, I didnt think I needed to point that part out, guess I should have, it's right there on yer front page (wiihd.net) in the middle of your review, well multiple review/attacks call them what ya want it's all a hack job. Is that not your additional comments "Where are the modern warefare reflex reviews?" I believe that is your name on that article, where ya posted the picture with the comment in it.

Look you attacked a good game that, was through great effort, made to run on the wii and run well on it. Right now any attacks in my view need to be justified as they are directly affecting sales when placed in the form of a review or sounding that way. I personally would like to see good games like this come to the wii, but with dismal sales it won't happen. I'm in no way saying to allow crap in, just because it's an online FPS, I called TC crap and still call it crap, and I see we may not be seeing eye to eye on that either.

But WaW openned alot of eyes in the development world, MWR could be the game that shows it wasn't a fluke, you dam well know that every game has been progressively better for the wii, and now we will start seeing better titles coming with plenty of content, so long as we are willing to support the big titles, I am certain we will see more quality developed with the wii's hardware in mind.

And in order to support the big titles we need the general public, that may not be hardcore gamers, to be interested enough to get the game, most of which will make up their minds by googling the title and reading what they find.

I believe you are wrong, and I will adimately state it with just as much passion to show them that it is a worthwile game.

You don't like it ban me. That is the only way your gonna shut me up.

BD

At the time that Modern Warfare came out, Nintendo was not allowing porting

What does that mean? MW came out in late 2007. There was no restriction for porting games to Wii set by Nintendo. MW didn't get ported at the time for one reason; Infinity Ward wanted (and still wants) nothing to do with Wii. Once Treyarch had already ported the COD4 engine as a means of bring WaWii to Wii, they were able to persuade Activision to bring this title to Wii as well.

Treyarch did do well with WaW and this is why Nintendo allowed them to finally port a game, Modern Warfare for the Wii was not approved by Nintendo till this year, and using game data from another system (360) was out of the question till just recently, (I believe ole "Iwata" CEO of Nintendo could shed some light on that one) all ya gotta do is this… RESEARCH!!!.

Sorry pal, you flat out don't know what you're talking about. Nintendo quality control no longer exists. They'll let anything on their system. And they have, or haven't you been paying attention as 100s of instances of shovelware splattered themselves all over the Wii?

Based on what I've read, you are biased towards the other systems, and are holding the Wii system up to the same standard when you damn well know it cannot hold the exact same graphics as those systems do

You don't seem to have read much here at WiiHD. I consider controls to be considerably more important than graphics, and were it not for the continual degradation of MoHH2's online servers, I'd probably still consider it to be the best FPS on Wii, despite the PSP port's very sub-par graphics, and so-so campaign. I recommended dialing back gfx for an online coop mode for WaWii (the original source of the image you noted — the image that has never appeared anywhere on this post btw), because at the end of the day, features are better than eye candy.

I think when you have a big budget and you set expectations high, you ought to make the game look nice, but I never hold the Wii up to 360 gfx standards. On the other hand, I bash the PS360 as a matter of course here. I think dual-analog is last-gen tech in a way that really matters. Eye candy is cool for… a few seconds. Then the gaming experience is all about playing the game itself. For that, the Wii Remote's IR pointer is vastly superior to what the PS360 offers.

I'd respond more at length, but you don't know anything about WiiHD, and you don't know anything about Nintendo. So there's not much left to respond to.

Way back when I was in college, majoring in creative writing, I was taught that this is a typical "hack" maneuver, an attempt if you will, to get the reader on your side, it's common in the rag magazines, but it's a simple maneuver that won't get ya a cookie in my neighborhood.

Keep the cookie. You might need it.

How did ya get this gig?… I mean I'm a little curious?, cause ya know the economy is so slow and it seems there would be some decent talent out there… are ya a relative? I won't tell…

LOL

Cause you clearly don't know a damn thing!

Where to start… Well how about basics, ya don't take someone's comments out of context like ya did, it's plain bad writing, you want to rebuff what they say, do it in a sensible manner, and maybe actually make a point.

But I'm getting ahead of myself, lets go back to the front page (wiihd.net) ya know where ya do all the damage? not buried here where yer backpedaling already.

"Sometimes I hate being right"

Don't worry, yer not, see how easy it is to make a smart comment off someone's quote?, well hold on, this is as good as it's gonna get for you.

"What makes this one sting so bad is that the potential for Modern Warfare was so high."

What is this? Way back when I was in college, majoring in creative writing, I was taught that this is a typical "hack" maneuver, an attempt if you will, to get the reader on your side, it's common in the rag magazines, but it's a simple maneuver that won't get ya a cookie in my neighborhood.

"The Wii version, on the other hand, deserves the rating IGN gave it — falling below the barely known PSP-port MOH:H2. This despite the fact that Modern Warfare had a proven sales record, a publisher bigger than some countries, a game engine already in place, an experienced developer team that did well with Call of Duty: World at War, and oh yeah, TWO YEARS to get it right"

Yeah I know it's not the full sentence, but I'll get to it. Well you may very well be right on Activision's size, but I'm not following ya on the rest? IGN is little more than the cheerleaders for the big two PS360. Any success of a Wii port means less money for game development on those systems and they got to share the fame with a console that they've spent their time calling a little kids console. Treyarch did do well with WaW and this is why Nintendo allowed them to finally port a game, Modern Warfare for the Wii was not approved by Nintendo till this year, and using game data from another system (360) was out of the question till just recently, (I believe ole "Iwata" CEO of Nintendo could shed some light on that one) all ya gotta do is this… RESEARCH!!!.

"but it can't do the one basic thing every FPS on Wii has to do — control well. Between framerate issues screwing with precision, and lack of polish all over, this mediocre game is a slap in the face to Wii owners and to a great underlying game."

What?… Hold on let me make sure I quoted it right… What!!! Um, did you actually play the game? I know I asked this before to other reviewers, but man, you guys don't know how to read or what? It took my nine year old all of five minutes to adjust his controls to a point of getting a 30-5 game his first day playing.

It took me a little longer, but the controls are every bit as responsive as the sensitivity you set it at, simply put, it's as fast and as precise are your reflexes allow it to get. If yer a chain smoker with the shakes, well I can't help ya other than to say "aim assist".

"mediocre" I see nothing mediocre about it… Based on what I've read, you are biased towards the other systems, and are holding the Wii system up to the same standard when you damn well know it cannot hold the exact same graphics as those systems do, it simply doesn't have the processor or memory for it. With that in mind, this is an exceptional game and right in line with the development of this system (more on that later).

"Frak you Activision. If you want my money, re-release the game in a year when you've actually finished it."

Again, either your ignorant, in which case yer uninformed and got no business reviewing this game or, you didn't do your homework, in which case your an idiot and have no business reviewing this game.

At the time that Modern Warfare came out, Nintendo was not allowing porting, Nintendo was only allowing certain files, and those could not be modified, Nintendo was not allowing patching… So let's take a look at the history, your the CEO at Activision, you got what amounts to a hostile console manufacturer who has all but guaranteed his stockholders that no title other than a Nintendo made title will ever top the Wii game sales (2008 E3 interview ), and the lone game that tried to work with them at the time MOHH2 was barely at 100k in sales, not even a profit! What do you do? You walk away with the profits from the PC and other consoles.

The Photo "Treyarch… Wii's hopes & Dreams" I have to address this out of context in order to answer your poor attempt at humor.

"I took care not to blame Treyarch."

Oh! shoot it just got away! flew right out the window… oh that was yer credibility flying out the window! Cause I knew you were either lazy or just plain incompetent, but now yer a liar!

How much more detail should I go into?… it's not looking well for you.

Oh, just so ya don't call me on the "more on that later" part. Every game since MOHH2 has bee a progressively better made game, WaW was Activisions run into the wii online FPS market, and it was a good game with problems that were beyond Treyarch's controls, due to Nintendo's restrictions, WaW by the way, was remade from the ground up for the Wii, they were not allowed to simply bring in and modify the 360 version as they were allowed to on MWR (even with this lifted, they still had to redo the entire game from the ground up to insure it fit), So it was riddled with glitches that Nintendo didn't allow to be patched. This game has greater map selection, more responsive controls, a ton load of goals to reach and the ability to patch glitches, so the under map glitcher/cheaters virtually don't exist, or do for just a few days or so from discovery.

So tell me again how ya missed most of this?

BD.

And disappointment is a relative term. If you have low expectations for something, even if it's crap, it isn't a big disappointment. Expectations for Modern Warfare Wii were high because of the level of quality it had delivered on other consoles, as well as what Treyarch had accomplished with WaWii demonstrating some of what we could expect. There was no real rush to get it out, as it's already been 2 years since it released on other consoles; so Activision's decision to blow it out the doors unfinished is all the more unexpected. Given the high expectations, and given the product's overall rushed demeanor, whose most disappointing feature to me is lack of solid, precision controls (which isn't really that hard to nail, it's been done), I stand by the 'most disappointing' moniker.

I'm glad you came and commented, but if you're going to boil down my argument, at least bother to understand it.

It sounds like you just cranked all the sliders up to max, didn't like it, and now you're on your little blog calling this game the "biggest wii disappointment yet." So no, that doesn't sound fair to me.

And by the way, this was a 9 month project - where you came up with two years, I have no idea.

I took care not to blame Treyarch. Activision, on the other hand, did have two years—even being generous and assuming that of course they wouldn't start the Wii port until releasing it on all other platforms first. I'm not going to cut Activision slack just because they decided to get a late start and set an early deadline that wouldn't allow Treyarch to actually complete the game.

Of course this is going to make it feel unresponsive. They didn't give it a fair shake by setting the controls to an extreme setting, and then complaining about it.

I have extreme control settings for MoHH2 and The Conduit. Specifically with regards to precision shooting (precision pointer accuracy), no, such a setting is not predetermined to result in unresponsiveness. Not a fair shake? Activision put out a title known for extremely high levels of quality, and as a result, quality is going to be expected. Since the single most important aspect of any Wii shooter is control, that's a pretty basic item to ensure quality on.

Guys like you slammed WAW last year for not having enough control customizability, for having presets instead of sliders, that kind of thing. MW addresses that and provides you with all the options you need.

Except the option of having precision control with extreme settings—a feature hardly unprecedented in Wii shooters.

If you're just referring to the comments in the ign review about the cursor being too unresponsive - did you even play this game yourself? Bozon is the only person out there - either a reviewer or just a regular gamer - who has complained about this. If you watch the video review, you can see he's playing it with the cursor sensitivity cranked way up. Of course this is going to make it feel unresponsive. They didn't give it a fair shake by setting the controls to an extreme setting, and then complaining about it.

And if you did actually play it, then what specifically is wrong with it? All you mention is the framerate, which by and large is solid. And by the way, this was a 9 month project - where you came up with two years, I have no idea.

ARGH! What is wrong with them all!
PLEASE SOME ONE HELP ME!!

So I want to respect her
So is there a lot of swearing?

and also is there a way to turn of subtitles and or charachter voice?

if you could let me know that would be great!!

jd

Learning how to maximize the potential of the bonuses for each civilization is a satisfying experience. Good luck.

Conduit Friend Codes Thread at WiiUnite

There is at least one other method for HBC install, but I haven't evaluated its safety level yet, and so I haven't updated the guide to use it yet.

If you want to explore on your own, wiibrew.org and hackmii.com are two of the biggest resources on the topic.

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DEAR TREYARCH
PLEASE PUT ZOMBIE LEVEL ON.WE KNOW THAT YOU CAN UPDATE MULTILAYER. THE PEOPLE OF THE WII WISH TO HAVE THE ZOMBIE LEVEL.WE THINK THAT ITS UNFAIR THAT
YOU PUT IT ON THE XBOX360 AND PS3.FURTHER MORE YOU HAVE PUT MUCH MORE ON THESE CONSOLES AND NOT ON WII.ALL WE ASK IS FOR THE ZOMBIE LEVEL. WE COMPLETE
THE GAME TOO EASY AND WISH FOR MORE TO DO ON THIS GAME WITH OUR FRIENDS.

1 day later comments and my argument

thank you for the supportive comments.
i completly agree with bobbylii:
"The Wii is capable of having Zombie mode but it requires effort and time. Wii version was worked on last. Zombie mode is mor ethan possible though.
Just lower the textures and take away the effect until the game looks last gen. But the Wii has a unique weapon. The Wii remote. Nintendo better make a
more powerful console next gen. i dont care if it is about as good as the PS3 is now.
That is what we pretty much got this gen anyways. The Wii has games that are closer to the PS2 than 360 except for a handful of title. Part of it is
weak hardware and a part of it is weak 3rd party (And even a little bit of Nintendo) support.
only games like The Conduit, Cursed Mountain, and Monster Hunter 3 are actually pushing the system."
this is correct we dont need all that stuff we just want the mode.
a comment from ~sniperwarrior~ said:
THEIR IS NO ZOMBIE MODE.
i completely disagree you know as well as every one that xboxlive and ps3 have it if you complete the game.
CUBSRULE825 HAD SOMMTHING TO SAY ABOUT:
"considering they couldn't do it originally they prob. can't do it now"
MAYBE SO BUT MY REPLEY WAS:"IF THEY CANT DO IT THAT SHOULDN'T OF DONE IT ON OTHER CONSOLES AS IT IS UNFAIR TO THE WII PLAYERS. THEY SHOULD OF THOUGHT
ABOUT THAT BEFORE THEY DONE IT. NOW LOOK WHAT IT HAS COURSED.IF YOU WAS TO COMPLETE THE GAME SO EASY THEN SEEN THAT ALL OTHER CONSOLE HAVE AN EXTRA LEVEL
AND YOU WAS LOOK FORWARD TO PLAYING IT THEN YOU FIND OUT THEY NEVER DONE IT ON YOUR CONSOLE YOU WOULD FEEL PRETTY ANNOYED."
yankees12344 IS RIGHT :
"i have a wii and an xbox cod is better on the xbox but the wii is cool too"
I THINK IT WILL BE ABOUT THE SAME IF WII HAD ZOMBIES WITCH MEAN MORE SALES FOR COD AND THE ALL READY GOT 3RD IN THE TABLE MAYBE IF THIS WII WON THIS
DEBATE THEY COULD BEAT GTA.
SOME SUPPORTIVE COMMENTS
The Wii is capable of having Zombie mode but it requires effort and time. Wii version was worked on last. Zombie mode is mor ethan possible though.
Just lower the textures and take away the effect until the game looks last gen. But the Wii has a unique weapon. The Wii remote. Nintendo better make
a more powerful console next gen. i dont care if it is about as good as the PS3 is now.
That is what we pretty much got this gen anyways. The Wii has games that are closer to the PS2 than 360 except for a handful of title. Part of it
is weak hardware and a part of it is weak 3rd party (And even a little bit of Nintendo) support.
only games like The Conduit, Cursed Mountain, and Monster Hunter 3 are actually pushing the system.
It is possible. Its just Treyarch is too lazy.
like cmon, they made NZ and it was fun, yet Cod 5 is lacking so much historical accuracy.
U Dumb mf geeks.
wii can handle it, wii has the power. But the wii was worked on last and they shelled it for the motion sensing and considering they said Wii
would have it.. We deserve to rant. But as Oranges said we dont need it to have fun we want it so we dont get made fun of.
I love it the way it is would love it more if it had zombie mode, but I have my friends to play that with so in other words lets stop ranting
and enjoy the game wii have for our wiis!

THE NEXT DAY I MADE ANOTHER DEBATE :

yestoday i started a debate about there is no zombies on wii. ive been on the treyarch website and found some information more about what wii
doesn't have and other consoless do and all we ask is for zombies this other thing are:
Campaign Co-Op
Play Co-Op through campaign levels you can experience in Single Player, but with up to three others (four-player online, or two-player local
split-screen). As soon as we got Campaign mode up-and-running, we starting building it out further and one way to do that was with Competitive Co-Op..

Competitive Co-Op
It's Campaign Co-Op, but with a very important twist: you play cooperatively through single-player campaign levels, while competing with
your partners for points. Each kill will award you with points; headshots and other more difficult feats are worth more than a basic kill,
you go on streaks to create point multipliers, and squad mechanics also award points (such as reviving a downed teammate).
There is a score board now, and at the end of the match there are Match Bonuses as you'd expect. What's more, is that you are earning XP
(experience points) – any XP earned in Co-Op will add to your global rank, which translates to XP and unlocks in Competitive Multiplayer.
So before playing Competitive Multiplayer, if you gained 10 levels in Co-Op, you would have all your level 10 unlocks when you logged into Multiplayer
now i dont think this is fair but still all i want is nazi zombie mode.
THE PEOPLE REPLEYED WITH:yestoday i started a debate about there is no zombies on wii. ive been on the treyarch website and found some
information more about what wii doesn't have and other consoless do and all we ask is for zombies this other thing are:
Campaign Co-Op
Play Co-Op through campaign levels you can experience in Single Player, but with up to three others (four-player online, or two-player
local split-screen). As soon as we got Campaign mode up-and-running, we starting building it out further and one way to do that was with
Competitive Co-Op..
Competitive Co-Op
It's Campaign Co-Op, but with a very important twist: you play cooperatively through single-player campaign levels, while competing
with your partners for points. Each kill will award you with points; headshots and other more difficult feats are worth more than a
basic kill, you go on streaks to create point multipliers,
and squad mechanics also award points (such as reviving a downed teammate). There is a score board now, and at the
end of the match there are Match Bonuses as you'd expect. What's more, is that you are earning XP (experience points) – any XP
earned in Co-Op will add to your global rank, which translates to XP and unlocks in Competitive Multiplayer. So before playing
Competitive Multiplayer,
if you gained 10 levels in Co-Op, you would have all your level 10 unlocks when you logged into Multiplayer
now i dont think this is fair but still all i want is nazi zombie mode.

THE PEOPLE REPLEYED WITH:
I just bought the wii and the first game i bought was CoDWaW… I wanted to play zombies…
BUT IT WAS NOT THERE!!!! AAAAAHHHH
then i tried to play co-op which was too hard to get into, guess i need to spent more time on it.
But i think Treyarch are the worst developers CoD has ever seen.
Im glad CoD MW2 will be activisions again.

AND IF YOU RESEARCH MORE YOU WILL FIND LOAD OF REASONS WYH YOU SHOULD PUT NAZI ZOMBIE MODE ON WII.
JUST LIKE I FOUND THIS:

brandon ryan

In response to: Re: Wii Want Zombies and Search!
Posted: 4 days ago
BRANDO RYAN
ya but why put a zombie mode only on ps3 and xbox 360 versions huh!
Zeppelin928
maybe on th wii after 15 zombies got on screen it slowed the FPS down below 20 and at the higher lv u can get 45-50 that is way to much for the wii to handle(its on the PC to)
brandon ryan
wii was made to handle more then that! then thir would be only 3guys on the campaige on every mission!

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i own a US wii and i would like to play copied wii games as well as different region wii games.

will homebrew allow this?

thanks.

Re error installing, from Lee: There are instructions on page three of the homebrew guide on how to update the starter kit, and instructions on page two on how to make your own. WiiHD will eventually upload a new version, but don't hold your breath. It is the holidays. Good luck.

Not only would that, at best (if you have Republic) be a waste of 20 odd production and a wash in terms of population, there's the opportunity cost in that if you settle it it's adds at least 2 population to the new city (more as you progress technologically, or if you have a civ with a starting pop bonus). Sometimes, it might make a little sense to build units in a fast growing city while you're a republic and move them to a different slower growing (or non-growing) city, but not often.

Wii system menu version 353 (v22 USA)
only been tested with
Wii system menu version 290 (v18) and below.

I pressed accept twice, and then….

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